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Hi, my name is Jeffrey Thrash. You may know me from my YouTube channel. I enjoy video games and cartoons and I like to create my own animations. Enjoy!

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AI Fart

Posted by jthrash - October 30th, 2022


I just checked Newground's Art Portal guidelines and it is reassuring to see that Mr. Fulp is not only against using AI art as finished pieces to spam the Art Portal with, but any tool that is often used by cryptobros to quickly and lazily bombard us with ads for their products--stuff like Epic Game's Metahuman, Daz Studio and Source Filmmaker after community backlash (apparently), and other substitutes for actually drawing or 3D modeling, at least unless you give credit to the creators of the original assets and your own original stuff is the focus of the piece. It certainly puts a lot less pressure on me to try to "game the algorithm" by posting a lot of "quantity-over-quality" pieces because there basically is no algorithm and in fact I would likely get punished by the reviews if I just post sketches or auto-generated art instead of just posting some high-effort bangers a few times a year.


It's a good thing there is some nuance to the guidelines, though, because for now, unlike NFTs or the "Metaverse," or any other flash-in-the-pan Big Tech trends, I have chosen to be more neutral for AI Art for now, as it currently tends to produce some creepy homunculus-looking surrealist art, which obviously provides a great springboard for my weirder character designs. You can be assured, at least, that even then I tend to follow up by drawing my own concept art in an attempt to make the design even goofier-looking and you may not even know whether or not I used AI art as reference unless I specifically tell you, as I see it more as a challenge to out-weird the original AI abomination. I will still need to hire 2D artists for "prettier" designs, though, that is just not my comfort zone specialty and it certainly isn't AI art's forte at this current stage of the technology.


And as for whether AI art will replace actual human artists in the future, well, it's not like you can just waltz into Hollywood NOW and get even an unpaid internship just by being good at drawing, unless you're good buddies with any of the celebrities or directors there. Will AI art really make that big of a difference in an industry infamous for serious gatekeeping, despite all this talk about hiring more "diverse talent?" My next day job will likely be just another day job to fund my Newgrounds art and animation endeavors on the weekend and HOPEFULLY get a little closer to becoming financially-independent, anyway. Might as well invest in technology that will make it easier to get a significant amount of art done over the weekend so that I can have more energy for my "adult" responsibilities the rest of the week and not burn out and quit like last time.


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well, if someone said 10 years ago that i.a. would be doing what it is doing today people would make fun of it. Now i say on the next 5, 10 or 15 years i.a. will be doing even more. On the Supply and demand law let's say art has a lot more of supply than demand, i.a. will reduce even more that demand, it's just a matter of it getting better and more popular.
Also, the problem is not just the i.a. taking some illustrations works, it will take many of the jobs, like the ifood drone, electronic concierge, self driving cars, etc, etc not even talking about what more technologies they will make to take other jobs, where all that unemployed people will go?

AI has already taken manufacturing and some grocery clerk jobs in the United States, but that doesn't stop US politicians from promising to bring those types of jobs back. For animation, I feel the more immediate threat to job creation is the decline of "traditional" cable TV combined with streaming services struggling as of late and how their solutions are unfortunately to punish families and friends that share accounts, add in cheaper "ad-supported" tiers that will basically make them cable TV 2.0, and of course relying less and less on expensive, time-consuming animated projects in favor of cheap, inoffensive live-action "junk food" like the Kissing Booth Trilogy.

That's the thing about AI art--if it's used responsibly, it's just another tool, like how Metahuman or Daz3D have hardly dented the need for artists capable of making human models that are both highly realistic and more unique than character generators seem capable of doing, but it's there for people that need good pose reference (Daz3D) or if they need to populate a huge Unreal Engine level with generic NPCs (Metahuman, and its usefulness is severely limited by the fact that it can only really be used in the Unreal Engine and maybe Maya). But it's not unreasonable to think that people are already using it to further push dumb, lazy NFT and "metaverse" scams at a far faster rate than just a year ago, and that movie studios that are only concerned about pumping content into our faces as fast and as much as possible (regardless if that content is actually GOOD...), then they'll definitely feel tempted to use AI if it can produce the same mediocre-but-profitable content that human artists have been putting out for years, but without the need to worry about workers getting sick or needing rent money in advance or forming a union.

I dunno, it's sort of like when photography and cameras killed the need for artists to get paid by rich people to realistically paint their likenesses, or how Disney and other companies killed off big-budget 2D animation around the 2000's and now we all have to get good at computer-generated 3D regardless if we are passionate about that type of animation. Or especially when the car replaced the horse-and-buggy, where it was obvious from the start that gas cars would be a disaster to the environment and our lungs, but we can't live without them now. Or it could just be like NFTs and "Metaverse" where the Scum and Villainy of Twitter end up killing AI art's reputation with all these scams and it will fizzle out in a year or two as a result like those tech fads, regardless of whether the technology itself is the problem. We just gotta adapt and hope to high heaven governments have a plan to avoid sending the world economy further down a bad place...

also dude, something that helped me a lot with the burn out was "personal development", nofap and christianism. Back when i was working on the pizza parlor full time 6 days per week day and night at the weekend and on the freetime working on the animations i couldn't do it if it was not by the personal development and nofap. Try searching about it, it is very good

Thanks for the tips. I definitely feel I should limit my art and animation work on my days off regardless of what job I get, and I definitely need to get a job that pays more than minimum wage if I want to live on my own (and I do). Porn is definitely a useless time-waster that, at the very least, doesn't give you enough time to actually go out and meet your potential significant other, so that's obvious. I've read the Bible like, 7 times from Genesis to Revelations since I was a teenager, but I still turn specifically to verses that argue that anxiety is useless and unproductive whenever I find myself worrying and fretting when I should be doing something about it (or just praying and focusing on what I can control when I overdo it with the national or international news consumption).

@jthrash i used to fap at least one time per day, few are times by which i could get 1 or 2 days without it, nowadays i do few times per week like 2 or 3 to the max, and sometimes stay like 7, 10 or even 15 days without one, my disposition did improve a lot after that.
I only read from genesis to revelations once, i think there is no need to reread again, i already know what genesis is about, what exodus is about, matthew or luke, when i need to read something i read the specific book, no need to read from genesis exodus, leviticus, psalm, proverbs to get to hosea or matthew, i already know what they're about. But anyway the bible is the true font of wisdom, i used to seek the paths of knowledge on neuroscience, the art of war, estoicism, persuation and seduction techniques and such, but the bible was the truelest one

I went to one of those stuffy "fire and brimstone" churches, which is why I felt the need to re-read the Bible so often until recently. The upside of that is that to this I don't even how to "fap" or what it even looks like (the culture in the United States is very prudish overall, remember), but regardless of how I express my feelings of arousal in private it never hurts to lay off time-wasters like porn. The fantasies just set you up for disappointment in the real world. It's sort of why I like to draw the ugliest creatures I can think of, because hopefully it will make people think "the real world can be an ugly place, but at least it's never THAT ugly!"

I just think drawing such abominations is fun and the comments I get about them crack me up!

@jthrash I think there is too much people on the world, it's not time to develop technologies to take out the jobs. Billions put on those technologies while millions are starving. The richer countries like u.s.a., germany, england they're doing good, but here on latin america we are having inflations, unemployment, hunger and misery (venezuela, colombia) all these factors rising. The employments are many by multinational corporations as the national industries are all dying on those poor countries, those big corporations have money to buy these technologies. Brazil is not like U.S.A. that has it's big corporations, we gotta buy things from the richer countries and their rich corporations.

I'm really sorry to hear that, and it also doesn't surprise me. That's why I try to get people in my own community to not only count their blessings, but try to do a better job helping out with global problems like climate change (at least reducing our consumption or using our wealth to invest in cleaner energy for our houses and cars). Because maybe it's just because it's a midterm election year, but people here are acting like our inflation, unemployment, hunger and misery is the worst in the entire world when all it really means for most of us is that we can't buy the more expensive brands at the grocery store or only drive when we have to. If it makes you feel any better, I would be in a similar or worse situation if my Mom's side of the family decided to stay in Cuba and most Americans with a hint of education are at the very least skeptical and quick to criticize our multinational corporations like Coca-Cola and MacDonald's.

@jthrash here in brazil we are pretty open about talking on these stuff, there ain't much taboo here. The classrooms are a disorder, a mess, 11 or 12 years old kids saying a lot of no no words and talking about sex porn and ting, they bring their phones to the classroom, they disrespect their teachers and classroom mates, it's a mess, it's crazy. I admit i liked it, had good times specially the last 2 high school years. I watch on the movies, series, animes, cartoons how are the classrooms on countries like usa, japan and remember how it is here in brazil.
I like mixing the beautiful artstyle with the ugly and repulsive stuff, it makes the beautiful even more beautiful and the repulsive even more repulsive

@jthrash well, we are doing pretty good here in brazil in comparision to colombia, venezuela, chile, argentina, etc, specially people like me who lives on the richer side of the brazil (São Paulo, i live in a city called Santos by which i say it's like Miami but in Brazil). The multinational corporations are expanding on everything, they want to privatize the brazilian waters (Nestle) and a brazilian bank called Itaú did talked about putting water on the stock exchanges like petrol or something. Chile did privatized their water, they say it got a lot expensive, Rio did privatized their water (water bills in Rio are now way expensiver than São Paulo bills), they want to do it here in São Paulo too. I feel very sorry for the poorer people

If someone said us will get replace by robots aswell as their hobby, it is possible, but since robot is controlled by human, we do better than the robot did.

Just compare human art and AI art, some AI art can make a mistakes and even stole the art and then modify it

It seems programming AI/robots is the only job safe from AI/robots these days. If worst comes to worst, hopefully I’ll at least have a lot more free time to finally learn how to code.