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Hi, my name is Jeffrey Thrash. You may know me from my YouTube channel. I enjoy video games and cartoons and I like to create my own animations. Enjoy!

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End of ArtStation-elion + New Portfolio Site

Posted by jthrash - December 18th, 2022


I recently re-created my Portfolio site from college on Wix in case ArtStation turns out to be a lost cause for art-related job seekers and recruiters. The fact that DeviantArt apparently went through the same AI-induced backlash and ArtStation seems to be making the same exact mistakes as DA isn't promising, though, thus this new independent website.


Here is the link:


https://jeffreythrash.wixsite.com/jeffrey-thrash-anim


I plan on using this once the job hunt resumes in January (or possibly even after Christmas, I haven't decided, yet), so constructive criticism on how I can make things as easy as possible for job recruiters is HIGHLY encouraged. I only included my absolute top 4 images I made in the last couple of years and made the size of each as low-res as I could get away with in case of slow Internet speeds on the other person's end (plus, of course, so that if art thieves manage to get these, at least they are getting the lowest-quality versions of my art!). Don't hold back just because you think your feedback might be too hard to implement, Wix websites don't involve any coding so most fixes will be easy to implement.


I'm not quite as worried about AI art taking over at the moment because proponents of the technology are antagonizing the very same artists that make their learning algorithms functions in the first place. I used to be somewhat neutral about AI art until this ArtStation incident, and it seems like the solution to all this would be as simple as properly paying and crediting artists if they choose to "opt-in" to these algorithms, but for some reason the creators of this technology are fighting hard against this and as a result AI art is already getting "samey" as people leave websites like AS and DA and their pool of unwitting or willing artists get smaller and smaller. Even long-lasting, traditional companies like Disney and Dreamworks have to shake up their animation styles every decade or so to stay relevant with audiences, and so will AI art once people stop being so impressed by the shiny new tech. Speaking of stubborn companies like Disney, a lot of people who say that AI has every right to "borrow" from copyrighted images as long it looks kind of new in the final generated image don't seem to understand how copyright law works in the United States. They may be able to steal from small-time Internet artists as conmen have always done since the dawn of the modern Internet, but they are going to be in for a world of hurt once Disney or Paramount's IP lawyers get back from their holiday vacations.


Still, rumor has it that a NSFW fork of Stable Diffusion called Unstable Diffusion has recently received $25 million in funding and specifically plans on using it for scraping ArtStation portfolios for generating porn. Naturally I'm deeply afraid of some employer rejecting me because they found my art style being used for nasty images across the Internet while I'm applying for a job as an animator for Paw Patrol or SpongeBob SquarePants, so this new site I made will be my new portfolio site for now while I'm seriously considering deleting my ArtStation if they don't do much, much more to protect industry portfolios.


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Oh so that's what's going on with artists quitting artstation, well good luck with using Wix!

Wix has gotten easier to use since I graduated college 4 1/2 years ago, so it only took me a few hours to make this whole website again. I love that Wix allows me to make right-click>saving my portfolio images impossible for anyone but me to do, it's very reassuring that if someone tries to steal my art on my Wix site, they would have to go through all sorts of manual steps to get my ultra-low-res versions of my images and just give up instead.

The only thing is that it will cost me a hefty monthly subscription just to remove the Wix ads and I will have to change all my business cards to reflect my new website. So hopefully ArtStation will see the error of their ways before it's too late. It's ridiculous that we live in a world where DeviantArt eventually listens to its fetish artists, while ArtStation is defying industry veterans on their site who work at the likes of Ubisoft and Disney!

UPDATE: I have officially deleted my ArtStation account and now this new Wix website is my portfolio website. Critiques on how I can improve it for the job hunt are especially welcome, now.

I've noticed you've been speaking a lot in these AI centered threads, and I have to say that I've been enjoying your thoughts on them. I feel in these times, we have to be assertive with our stances on AI because if we aren't, then the other side will push further until no one benefits.

If there's one thing that eased my pain about the whole ordeal, it has to be this post I found on Artstation:

https://www.artstation.com/artwork/03Pbz4

It addresses about all the arguments people have in regards to the newly found trend. I do believe people will push back. It's just at the current moment, not many people know. Perhaps it's a bit of confirmation bias on my end, but many people I know have already grown disillusioned to work they deem "soulless". Imagine more companies openly stating that they'll replace their human workers with machines. Considering that work is our livelihood, I doubt the populace at large would gently accept their demise.

Best of luck to you, from one artist to another. :)

I’ve read that post. It is important to warn people of the dangers of just blindly accepting this technology into our lives, but it is important to be aware of more positive stuff and that there are actually plenty of things we can do to fight against the loss of our jobs. I’ve found a lot of AI proponents fight back by telling us it’s a “Pandora’s Box” that can never be closed, that there is nothing we could do to “stop progress,” that we should just give up and just generate prompts all day—basically they want us to get too discouraged to even fight back.

They don’t seem to understand, though, that we all need to work for a living and it’s never as simple as “oh, just spend another 4-8 years in college and get unreasonably deep into debt if getting a job in animation is too hard now,” especially if they are also working on ways of replacing many of my fallback plans and especially minimum wage jobs with other forms of AI. We can’t just throw in the towel if giving up means starving to death while homeless on the streets, and it is extremely naive to assume governments and society will immediately adapt to a world where only AI has to work for a living instead of humans.

We will fight for our livelihoods, and if they’re just going to tell us we have to learn to live with AI, then it’s only fair to expect them to learn to live with humans who just want to continue to be able to put food on the table, too. It goes both ways.

@jthrash It's a common sentiment I see from people these days. Logically speaking, it's far easier to be aware of something than it is to point it out and think of solutions. People feel powerless and to some, going towards a nihilistic route can be comforting. I mean, why try to come up with any ideas at all, when it's all sucked into the void? When you live in a world that constantly has your self-worth challenged, eventually it affects the way you feel about yourself and others.

Nevertheless, I think accepting the end of millions of jobs stems from an incredible lack of insight. If programmers were able to create AI that can copy the moves of chess players and borrow techniques from renowned artists, what else can they do? And how long will it take people to find out that these types of engineers aren't interested in the human ability? Will it take for people to walk the streets homeless to realize? These people, as stated in their language think that humans are obsolete, that nothing they can do will ever be useful or interesting. Is this the group of people society wants to be in charge?

I'm only just one person. I'm not involved in government nor am I famous, but I do want to help encourage others to push back. It's because I see that this will eventually harm more people than it will help. I would like to make sure we don't wait until it's too late, whenever that time will be.