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Hi, my name is Jeffrey Thrash. You may know me from my YouTube channel. I enjoy video games and cartoons and I like to create my own animations. Enjoy!

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I Saw a Mainstream Hollywood Movie...AND LIKED IT!!

Posted by jthrash - 1 month ago


How's that for a shocking click-bait headline?


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But yeah, I saw the recent Wicked movie with some of my family. It was actually pretty good, despite the actresses engaging in needless controversy on the Muskrat site (the lady who plays the Witch/Elphaba apparently didn't like the poster fan-edits on Twitter where they gave her red lips, like in the original play poster, even somehow interpreting it as racism).


...Whatever, that stuff doesn't remotely affect my decision to watch movies at this point, and as for the movie itself, it was a quite impressive, faithful adaptation of the play I actually saw in San Diego back in the late 2000's, and I forgot how catchy a lot of the songs of this particular Broadway Production were. Fun fact: Idina Menzel, who played the Witch/Elphaba in the original run of the Wicked play, went on to be the singer and voice actress of Elsa in Disney's Frozen franchise. Better yet, despite the inevitable gripes from the likes of Critical Drinker and other right-wing drama queens about the diverse casting (compared to the original Wizard of Oz about 90 years ago), it really did feel like an old-fashioned Hollywood musical in the vein of Music Man, Singing in the Rain or Grease, where the director seemed to have acknowledged that the best part of ANY musical was the actual music, dancing choreography and sets, and focused on that instead of spending too much time with story and exposition--although Wicked in particular was always a pretty solid prequel story to The Wizard of Oz.


Of course, this is sort of a review, so I should mention it isn't perfect. I genuinely think Universal could potentially get sued for some false advertising, because I went in convinced I was going to see the entire play in a single movie, only to learn this movie was only "Part 1" and there is going to be at least "Part 2" a few years from now to wrap up the story--essentially, like Beyond the Spider-verse, it seems to only end at "Act 2" and we're going to have to wait a long time just to see the Third and final Act of this simple story. As someone who still waits in vain for a Mega Man Legends 3 or a Shenmue where Ryo Hazuki final gets to at least land a single punch on Lan Di, I've grown to absolute DESPISE cliffhangers in stories, but again, the director seemed to have wisely focused more on "musical vibes" than the story, and I found myself not caring too much by the end that I was getting an incomplete movie, as the amusing, old-school dancing and set-pieces sufficiently distracted me from that fact.


That's all I have for my "cons" list, really, a minor gripe that ultimately didn't turn out to be a huge issue at all, definitely one of the better Broadway-to-Hollywood adaptations in the 21st century, along with The Greatest Showman, Les Miserables, and, um...I REALLY wanted to like Disney's Into the Woods, just because it was so morbid compared to what you would expect from the House of Mouse, and a rather lovely Taylor Swift as I think Rapunzel, and even Chris Pine in that particular movie making me question whether I am as "straight" as I think I am. But I digress...


The casting is also the absolute best I've seen in a long while--basically the polar opposite of that Borderlands movie, unlike that movie everyone in Wicked seemed BORN to play that specific role. For example, it may be eyebrow-raising to see Ariana Grande get ANY role considering some of her controversies, let alone a lead role as Galinda/Glinda the Good Witch, but who better to play a vain, petty, virtue-signaling attention seeker like Glinda than someone who is a vain, petty, virtue-signaling attention-seeker in real life? Also I'm biased because I've always had a bit of a crush on Ariana Grande since she played that squeaky-voiced character in the TeenNick show, Victorious--of all the painfully-awkward Cuban Americans she had to date for a while, why did it have to be Pete Davidson and not me?? Ahem...


But yeah, pleasantly surprised by this movie, puts its likely $200 million+ budget to good use for once, but hopefully I'll regain some of my testosterone levels back once the Sonic 3 Movie comes out and I watch it. Keanu Reeves as Shadow the Hedgehog, YEEEEAAAUUUHHH!


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elphaba has a sweet design

Like I said, the casting choices for this particular movie were unusually good. Normally there's at least one major character where I think "the actor is too young/too old to play this character," but not here.

IMMABUNNY LOST FOOTAGE 1997 https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eduSBDc6prU

He's not THAT scary...

it surely ain't easy being green. Also, do you americans like those musical stuff? Here in brazil (at least me) we hate such thing in movies, here we want to see action, hot girls and funny stuff. Here in brazil a popular american series is "wife and kids" very funny show, but i hated when they sing lol
Also, i don't think you can get much testosterone with sonic though

Funny thing is that I used to hate musicals until my Dad showed me The Greatest Showman, then I realized musicals can be FINE as long as I focus on the music and not the (oftentimes) threadbare story, usually involving impossibly beautiful people being sad despite being so beautiful and perfect. But yeah, all you have to do is look at Disney's filmography or all the Looney Tunes cartoons lampooning classical music to realize we Americans are easily amused by a well-choreographed musical number. Especially as distractions during times of national stress--Hamilton is SUCH a delusional, unrealistic look at American idealism (especially after the results of the recent Presidential Election and considering the real-life Alexander Hamilton is most responsible for our national "gun culture"), but the music is catchy, so who cares?

To be fair, there are tons of popular musicals I never understood the appeal of, such as Dear Evan Hansen, the infamous Spider-Man Musical, and especially Disney's most recent obnoxious Princess movies. Plus it should be telling that it was my sister and my Mom that convinced me to watch this movie, and it's probably only fair after subjecting them to (arguably) sexist anime like Kill la Kill and basically everything else from Studio Trigger that they get back at me by making me sit through what is admittedly a bit of a chick-flick. My next Hollywood slop-fest will be Gladiator II this next weekend, don't worry.

Finally, I think Sonic 3 will at least be a "boy-ish movie," considering the advertising is heavily focused on Shadow the Hedgehog wielding guns while riding motorcycles and him being voiced by the same guy that did the Matrix and John Wick movies in the English dub. Plus, outside of "Pretzel Lady" and her fat, unfunny sister that got WAY too much screen time in the second Sonic movie, the movies seem to be absolute "sausage fests," not even acknowledging the existence of Amy Rose or other female Sonic characters in an age where SEGA and Hollywood seem to be trying way too hard to get more girls and women to buy their stuff.

All in all though, as disillusioning as it sounds, every once in a while I have "normie" tastes in entertainment, and if I had to choose between watching a basic Hollywood musical with friends and family, and watching angry incel content alone and depressed in my room, I would choose the Hollywood musical route. I'll give you all time to process this knowledge of my character flaws...

@jthrash yeah, i know how it's like, i have some normie traditions too, specially when it comes to brazilian stuff. I also say The Godfather is the best movie ever, like many normies (and boomers) do. Matrix is also a great movie too, i love it.
I'm an artist and animator too, people would expect me to be a lot into such animated stuff like disney, cartoon network, etc, would do. But besides metal (and extreme metal) music what really inspires me is stuff like the godfather, scarface, grand theft auto, matrix, etc. Another exclusive little spoiler of future eofs just for you (and anybody reading this), i may do something with digital circus + matrix

Personally, I think it's good to get ideas from other sources than just other people's cartoons. It gives you a much wider variety of potential ideas to choose from, exposes your audiences to other potential hobbies and "fandoms" than just more cartoons, and most importantly you're less likely to make something that is just an inferior rip-off of what's already out there. That said, I've always liked stuff like Conker's Bad Fur Day, where like 50% of the game was just re-creating popular movies at the time as N64 platformer levels, so shameless derivative stuff can be fun sometimes, too, when done right.

I haven't really been able to enjoy cartoons since The Regular Show ended (and I outgrew Cartoon Network), and I haven't really enjoyed any more recent Japanese anime besides the now decade-old Kill la Kill, yet I'm never running out of new ideas to turn into dumb cartoons because I have a massive variety of other interests to turn into stories (Although I think it also helps it takes me at least half a year to implement my ideas into full animations, meanwhile I'm coming up with like 10 ideas an hour I'll never have the time to turn into full animations). I could probably get more ideas for "stupid" characters these days from U.S. politicians than I could from Patrick Star from SpongeBob. Of course, no one can accuse me of ripping off Demon Slayer, or Bluey, or whatever the heck the "young sprouts" watch nowadays, either. If you know what cartoon I got the term "young sprouts" from, then congratulations, you are an old Millennial soul.

And yes, you are correct in saying The Godfather is the best movie ever. Part II is pretty good, too. Pretend that Godfather Part III never happened, however.

@jthrash conker bad fur day looks like a good game, i only watched a bit of it some time ago, once a follower in facebook said the squirrel is literally me, don't know why though. Regular show was a great show indeed, i watched it back in 2011 or something and a bit some years later. Never watched kill la kill too, just watched some of it in youtube and the first episode many years ago, but i don't remember much about it. Funny thing you said kill la kill was sexist lol, i wonder what ists eofs would be.
I don't know much about specific american politicians besides biden and trump, also i'm sorry for elections result there, even though i think i would prefer trump rather than biden if i was in america, but i surely know how it is to have a president you hate lol
And yeah, the godfather part III sucks, not as an entire movie, but it surely doesn't deserve to be that near the godfather part I and II

Conker is a fun, gloriously-bloodthirsty parody of Rare and Nintendo's cutesy games at the time, but it was a rushed game and the controls and camera are very unwieldy and frustrating by today's standards. You'd probably be better off just watching a playthrough of the game like I did (twice), rather than playing it yourself.

Frankly, Kill la Kill is only all that sexist on the surface level. A lot of episodes are basically metaphors for female body positivity, fighting against the patriarchy telling women what they can and can't wear, most of the male characters in the show are kind of pathetic or even "damsels in distress," stuff like that. You know how prudish Americans can be, though (this country as we know it now was founded by literal Puritans), and the simple fact that the female characters with larger-than-average boobs get naked a lot and the show was mostly made by men makes it "sexist" in our culture, sorry.

I don't want to get too much into the Election stuff since I frankly don't like talking about politics anymore, but I'm over it now and moved on with my life, don't worry. All around the world, we apparently experienced an "anti-incumbent" election year (basically, if you were in charge during all the economic inflation and chip shortages up until about 2023, then you're outta here), and predictably, we Americans got it quite easy compared to, say, Germany, in that Donald Trump barely won the majority of the vote 51-48% (meaning he may have to assure almost half the country he's not going to harm them and increase his poll numbers to get anything truly done), and he's already proving that he's more interested in "triggering the libs" than actually passing laws, and the best way for me to deal with that for 4+ years is to just ignore the news and live my life regardless of what's happening outside my immediate neighborhood.

To be fair, Democrats give me ideas for "dumb" characters too, even if I see them as the lesser of the two evils. Even if incumbents like Biden (and later Vice President Kamala Harris) were probably doomed to lose no matter what this year, I have never seen a party panic like chickens with their head cut off the moment Trump started catching up in the polls, doing everything they could to make things worse for themselves and turn this minor setback into a massive problem for the Democratic party as a whole. Though of course I would be subtle and non-political about it in my future cartoons since 1) I'm sick of talking about this stuff and 2) Jokes directly about US politicians simply make no sense to most people out of the US, similar to how, if you were to make fun of a specific Brazilian politician, I would have no idea what you're talking about.

@jthrash yo, yeah, some stuff in eofs (and even some eps) only makes sense to brazilians, it's not exactly a bad thing if you're aiming only for the brazilian audience (or in your case if you're aiming only to american audience)
I see both republicans and democratics as well right wing and left wing as wings of the same evil bird, i see the republicans and right wings the lesser evil, i know their speech sounds harsh sometimes, but life is hard and reality is gross, and some as harsh as they are unfortunately are true, how reimu says: good medicine tastes bad. Communism in theory would be a perfect world, but unfortunately it's too far away from reality
Also, yeah, it's better to keep some distance (a good one) from news and politics, i will get back to the personal development life style, in the personal development they say you gotta stay away from news and politics as it is bad for your brains, self esteem, etc, it makes you pessimistic, worried and lazy